Tim Ellsworth

It’s Open Blog Friday

August 25th, 2006

Is it “shirt sleeves” or “short sleeves”? I often hear people refer to short-sleeved shirts as “shirt sleeves,” but that’s not entirely accurate, is it? After all, long-sleeved shirts have sleeves, too.

I’m terribly vexed.

40 Responses to “It’s Open Blog Friday”

  1. Nick Fox says:

    It’s definately Short-sleeves. I think people calling them shirt-sleeves are simply being lazy in their english. We do that so much in the English Language. We Americans don’t enunciate (sp?) like the British.

    Great question though Tm.


  2. Or one could always wear a tank top with no sleeves.

  3. Newman says:

    Its short sleeves and I’ve never heard it called shirt sleeves. Shirt sleeves would refer to either long or short sleeve shirts. All who call it shirt sleeves instead of short sleeves should recieve multiple lashing from a baboo cane.

  4. Newman says:

    snow sleeves you mean?

  5. Jason says:

    …there’s just no middle ground with you, is there Newman? :)

    You’re a constant and ready source of amusement for me, no doubt.

  6. Craig says:

    People referred to being in their shirt sleeves means they have no coat or jacket on. It’s a holdover from the old suit-and-tie days.


  7. I’ve never been skiing.

  8. Scott Gladin says:

    Well goodness Craig; you just ruined our chances at having a 3-month discussion about this before we figured out the answer.


  9. Where in the world is Jeremy Jones these days? Haven’t seen him around here in a long time.

  10. gen-o says:

    These are called “egg-corns” (see http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/2/eggcorn/)

    Two different things:

    Short sleeves are, in fact, short sleeves.

    Shirt sleeves are, as Craig said, jacketless sleeves. Prior to WW1 or so, for a gentleman to appear without a coat in public (or a hat for that matter) was a state approaching nudity. In “Bartleby the Scrivener,” for example, the narrator sees Bartleby in a shirt and complains that it is an immodest state. After WW1 or so, shirt sleeves came to be something like “business casual” i.e., no jacket required. This was true especially in the South. We still see this when a pastor apologizes for taking off his jacket in a hot sanctuary.

  11. The Zoner says:

    Reds catch redbirds. Cubs season can have some meaning by hurting the Cards. Reds on big west coast road trip. Could go down to the wire. LaRussa and many Cards fans could nervously scratch away their mullets.

    Heading down to Champaign with the family. Please pray for safe travels. Have a lovely weekend–your Father in heaven loves you very much!

    The Zoner

  12. Bob M. says:

    Zoner you’re headed to my stomping grounds……I’m in Rantoul. But going to Decatur on Sat. to help mother-in-law move.

  13. Bob M. says:

    New post at Random Meanderings. :-)

    Have a great weekend all.


  14. Put me down for short sleeves. When someone says shirt sleeves, I always wonder what other kinds of sleeves they could be talking about…pants sleeves?

    I would appreciate your prayers for my father. He’s been in the hospital since Tuesday night, and they finally determined it’s a bad gall bladder, which normally’s an easy surgery, but infection has already set in, so things are a little more complicated.

  15. David B says:

    I am looking for a new study Bible. Any suggestions??

  16. Newman says:

    For all those who like riddles, here is a good one I could only get to round 8 on. Its web based and takes some careful thinking and looking. Its not porn.

    http://deathball.net/notpron/

  17. Jason says:

    David… I’d whole-heartedly recommend the NASB Inductive Study Bible.

    IBS is a method that takes some preparation, but I’ve enjoyed it for many years now. Likewise, I think the NASB takes some adjustment to get familiar with it, but it’s a nice balance between a readable Bible that doesn’t water down and the hard-to-read (albeit poetic) language of the KJV, and similar.

  18. Newman says:

    I’ll admit it Jason, 9.8732621943 times out of 10 I’m right and everyone else is wrong. I actually have a hard life because my opinions are the only right ones. On top of that I despise Ray Nagin.

  19. Craig says:

    David, take a look at the Reformed Study Bible, edited by R.C. Sproul. Theology based on the reformers (solo scriptura!) and therefore the Church fathers. Also, it uses the English Standard Version, a reliable translation.

  20. David B says:

    Thanks for the suggestions, the current study Bible I have reads like a kindergarden book and loses a lot of the translation that I need….

  21. Tim says:

    Give the New Geneva Study Bible a look.


  22. Scott,

    Not to worry. Having the right answer thrust in our faces has never yet prevented a long, meaningless discussion of a topic.

    Parlez on!

  23. Newman says:

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  24. Scott Gladin says:

    Haha, good point, Cameron.

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    Hey Scott type in “Failure” in google and check out your buddy on there!

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  30. Scott Gladin says:

    Thanks Newman, thanks.

  31. Scott Gladin says:

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  32. Chuck says:

    Scott, is your buddy Michael Moore

  33. Scott Gladin says:

    Goodness no. I may still love him cause Jesus said to, but boy do I not like him.
    I thought Newman was talking about W…

  34. The Zoner says:

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  35. Scott Gladin says:

    Please tell me you’re kidding.

  36. Chuck says:

    He was. I was joking.

  37. Scott Gladin says:

    Whew. [Mild panic attack is now over.]

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  39. Newman says:

    Whats wrong with Moore? He proves some very good points.

  40. The Zoner says:

    I’m not kidding at all. Have you seen his films?