Bin Laden wants Zarqawi body released
June 30th, 2006Osama bin Laden has called on President Bush to release the body of slain terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Here’s how Bush should respond:
“We’ll trade you. Zarqawi’s body for yours.”
35 Responses to “Bin Laden wants Zarqawi body released”
That we are unable to find this guy speaks volumes to me about this whole fiasco. I just wish it would all go away. I think I understand Canadians more and more with each day we are at war.
It amazes me that we, the american people, assume the role of judge and give verdicts concerning our government when we only know what the media lets us know. I do not know 1/10th of what President Bush knows as he is briefed daily concerning the “war on terror”- and that is a liberal assessment of my knowledge. I would also assume that the public at large is in the same boat as I concerning their knowledge of what is going on. Yet, somehow, we think we know what is best. We think we should pull out of Iraq. We think we should have never went to war. We think we should have found bin Laden by now. We think we don’t know where he is. We think…
I wonder how much more we would think if there was not the media. The media seems to be the one dictating to us what should and should not be and how bad or how good things are. My grandfather used to tell me stories of how the news was news when he was growing up and now it is littered with subtle opinions- just like when the serpent said to Eve, “Surely God did not say…”.
I wonder if the demise of America will stem from the hand of its own media?
j razz
j razz, Sounds like you read Ann Coulter’s blog this week. She’s calling for the NYT’s head (figuratively) on a platter for just the point you make.
Sure Binny, come and get him. We’ll boil up a batch of chitlins to take with you.
Jason,
Actually, I am probably less informed on the matter than I appeared- I do not know who Ann Coulter is
j razz
j razz, consider yourself blessed!
j razz you sound like a blind sheep. WE are the governement.
As for the media, some things are evident and I don’t need them to tell me anything more than the pictures I see. This is a huge mess.
j razz you sound like a blind sheep.
Have we, the government, figured out how to genetically engineer and breed that type of sheep yet? Man oh man, the marvels of modern science
Seriously though, I don’t quiet get your parallel concerning the blind sheep unless you are saying that I am following the government (and/or leadership) without question. If that is what you are saying, then I would disagree with you. The government is not perfect and if you listen to the media long enough you willl believe that the government is supposed to be all knowing and all powerful as well as perfect and they are not. Mistakes are made and accountability needs to be prominent. This is also true with the media. I would rather have an unbiased report than a slanted view of the report any day. Let me make my own decisions. The media should not take the liberty to influence my decision- they should report the story, not slant it.
Don’t mistake me for someone who blindly follows the call of elephant or donkey. I think critically about the issues that I am confronted with and that affect me and the future prosperity of my children. With that being said- I do not have the whole picture and I cannot make an informed decision like the president can. Like his cabinet can. Like congress can. Like our military leaders can. What I can do is trust that they are doing what is best for us and our country based on what they know or I can sit in my comfortable chair and read the news that says, the government should have done this or should have done that or they did this wrong or etc, etc. Hindsight is a great thing, but it is of no aide now to those who will soon have it.
j razz
Good point j razz. I am one that assumes the role of judge and gives verdicts based on info I see and hear. I don’t base my decisions just on the media though just for the reasons you mentioned. I also listen to what real people affected by the situation say (this includeds our soldiers home and abroad).
Tim I like your idea. That is a trade I would go for.
I posted this in the open blog friday area but it applies here also.
The High Price of American Gullibility
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/060628_gullibility.htm
Sorry, zoner, but “I just wish it would all go away.” Does that sum up the U.S. attitude or what? This is exactly what bin laden is counting on. We have no stomach for anything difficult. How long did the British fight the IRA? 30 years? 40 years? We need to make up our minds that we’re in this for the long haul.
As for zarqawi, I thought he was buried in Jordan a few days after he was killed.
Your government J has not proven itself trustworthy. This news SWIFT deal and the wire tapping, the patriot act. The list goes on and on. Read the article above. Its very iteresting and makes very good points. Let me quote my favorite part.
“Many Americans have turned a blind eye to the administration’s illegal and unconstitutional spying on the grounds that, as they themselves are doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear. If this is the case, why did our Founding Fathers bother to write the Constitution? If the executive branch can be trusted not to abuse power, why did Congress pass legislation establishing a panel of federal judges (ignored by the Bush administration) to oversee surveillance? If President Bush can decide that he can ignore statutory law, how does he differ from a dictator? If Bush can determine law, what is the role of Congress and the courts? If “national security” is a justification for elevating the power of the executive, where is his incentive to find peaceful solutions?”
TSinker- what is your solution? How do we get the ball rolling?
j razz
“Another reason for the gullibility of Americans is their lack of alternative information to government propaganda. The independence of print and TV media disappeared in the media consolidations of the 1990s. Today a handful of large corporations own the traditional media. The wealth of these corporations consists of broadcast licenses, which the companies hold at the government’s discretion. Newspapers are run by corporate executives, whose eyes are on advertising revenue and who shun contentious reporting. The result is that the traditional media are essentially echo chambers for government propaganda”
If this is true then why does the media hammer Bush and not support him. I know many people that see just the opposite in the news that this guy does. This guy is just another anti Bush administration person. This is just more media crap. Can I say crap on here Tim?
You just did, Chuck.
AS a nation we turn our hearts to God. We stop the slaughter of our unborn children. We pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We vote in good moral Christian men who will uphold the lord and his commandment, who will uphold the law, uphold the constitution and repeal the Federal Reserve act of 1913 and set forth a monetary system that works for everyone.
That J will get the ball rolling in the right direction.
Chances are I will say it again in the future on here. Will that be allowed?
Bring it to the basics then Chuck. Leave the politics out. It’s about money. I’ve said it a million times before, MONEY. Our nation loves money (bling). Money controls the media and politics. Huge international money calls the shots. Remember wealth is never lost its only transferred. Our misfortune will make someone extremely rich and powerful.
I do not disagree with that Tyler. Money rules the world and it is very sad.
What about all the laws being broken in Washington to fight “Terror” and to keep us safe? I once thought like you did about the government knew best and bla bla but not after all this crap and this new Security and Prosperity Partnership for North America or this North America’s Super Corridor Coalition, Inc thing going on.
AS a nation we turn our hearts to God. We stop the slaughter of our unborn children. We pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan. We vote in good moral Christian men who will uphold the lord and his commandment, who will uphold the law, uphold the constitution and repeal the Federal Reserve act of 1913 and set forth a monetary system that works for everyone.
Okay, let’s say we do these things. What about the other 70%+- that do not believe in God, that do not believe a fetus is a living, breathing human being and those who do not think “good moral Christian men” need to be in office running a country based on their religious beliefs and convictions? If we can’t agree on whether or not the SBC should have authority in making a decision concerning drinking that the bible doesn’t even venture support for- how are we going to get the true Christians to stand up and do what you put forth? (By the way, for the record, I think that true Christians are already doing this- it is the ones who call themselves Christians and think that abortion is okay and gay rights are okay and legalizing drugs are okay etc that I think you are really referring to).
Ideally, what you suggest is good and well. Practically, it is already being done by those who are Christians. Realistically, it (getting the rest of America to go for these changes) won’t happen b/c we live in a fallen world with fallen people who have been blinded and decieved and are natural enemies of God.
So, I see two options- trust that God knows what He is doing with the future of the world (including America) and we do what we are supposed to do as Christians who are obligated to conform to the image of Christ,
or we can complain and refer to hindsight- which accomplishes nothing.
j razz
Tyler,
It is obvious that I do not contain the knowledge about what is going on in the U.S. politically that you do. I am not totally against a law being broken to protect me. If a person shot and killed someone who was going to kill me I would not want that person to go to prison for murder. They just did a good thing by saving my life. A law was broken, but for the good.
I also am not familiar with the other two items you mentioned. I believe you posted them before, but I do not have the time to read and reasearch everything I would like to.
Why can’t Benny Hinn and his disciples speak a word of knowledge about where Osama is. If Benny can pinpoint a tiny cancer iust forming in a woman he has never met who happens to be watching his tv show from a third world country why can’t he find a 200 lb cancer with a 2ft beard walking around with an AK-47?
I just laughed out loud. Thanks for the chuckle, bjaj.
I believe the US military has yet to discover the organ prelude. It is a weapon of mass destruction. If we could somehow get our organists to enlist and hit a few cords I believe Osama would float to the top like catfish after a stick of dynamite has exploded under the water.
If a person shot and killed someone who was going to kill me I would not want that person to go to prison for murder.
Chuck, this is actually not considered murder. Both federal and (most) state laws allow for the use of deadly force if another person’s life is at stake. Simply, if somebody is physically attacking your wife or neighbor, they can be shot; if they’re saying naughty things to your wife, you cannot.
Not picking brother - just informing.
J we should trust God and call our leaders out when they overstep the boundries of the law. I’m not sure what exactly your refering to by the complaining and hindsight and what have you.
if they’re saying naughty things to your wife, you cannot.
Errr… you cannot shoot them.
Mind fast moving too fingers slow.
Thanks misawa. You know after I posted that I thought there was probably a law that would protect you in that situation. Let me use a more controversial example.
If a child was molested, raped, killed, etc. and the parent killed the guilty party. I would not necessarily think the parent should go to prison. I know this opens the door wide open for vigilanteism and that would lead to chaos. I don’t want that either.
TSinker,
What I am referring to is the stance mainstream media has concerning everything this current administration does, hence the slant
j razz
Chuck- for that reason there is the “heat of the moment” plea. However, despite Hollywood, this rarely results in the person “getting away” with murder. Now with all that said, I know of very few DAs that would push for a 1st degree murder charge in such a case; more like involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment.
It seems as though I am getting off the subject, but in both instances someone was killed by someone else and although this is normally considered wrong and against the law. I think it is justified. That is my point against the claim that Bush broke the law for our protection.
We’ve spent over 100 billion on this war as a country and who knows how much money is being made in the markets. Knowing that the love of money is the root of all evil is it not conceivable that some entity somewhere wanted a war and 2500+ lives in the trade center is meaningless to those kinds of people? How many Millionaires have enough money? How many people kill one person for $50 out of a cash register? $50 for one life or 50,000 lives for 500 plus billion. How many of our politicians come from money? How can we trust them when the Bible plainly warns against this? It’s hard for me to comprehend but it makes sense. Think about the one instance in the bible when Jesus used force. He did so against the money changers in the temple. It’s no different today. The money changers back our fractional debt banking system and they make massive amounts of money off war, the effects of war and our debt.
Tim,
you have broken rule number 274 of the top 608 degrading things you never do to a Muslim man!
Rule number 274 clearly states the following:
Never offer to trade the life of a Muslim man for the body of a dead Muslim man.
“The media should not take the liberty to influence my decision- they should report the story, not slant it.” You will never, ever, ever get that. It’s up to you to filter through the many sources available to you and come to certain conclusions.
As far as your comments about you not knowing about the gov’t and the president and his cabinet, he has you right where he wants you. He has you faithfully backing him without question it seems.
You also wrote “like congress can…like military leaders can…”
Well many in congress and want out or at least a plan and a number of retired generals + Gen. Casey has a plan to start withdrawing troops.
You can’t compare this to the IRA. Try vietnam instead.